MINUTES
HORSE
HILL NATURE PRESERVE (HHNP)
01/30/06
Members Present:
Tim Tenhave, Chair HHNP Ad Hoc, Master Plan Robyn Goinsalvos, Horseback Riding, Abutter
Harry Watt, Mountain Biking Linda Reid, Abutter
John Hall, Watanic Bowmen Club Mike Ruggiero, HHNP Ad Hoc, MYA
Harold Watson, HHNP Ad Hoc Connie Kreider, HHNP Ad Hoc, Heritage
Debra
Huffman, HHNP Ad Hoc, Master Plan
Janet Comier, HHNP Ad Hoc, Parks Tom Vaillancourt, Mountain Biking
Roger Blais, Right Riders (ATV) Denise O’Dwyer, HHNP Ad Hoc
Bob L’Heureux, Hunting Nelson Disco, Planning Board
John Herring, Abutter Ruth Roulx, HHNP Ad Hoc, P&R, Heritage
Rick DiOrio, Sno-buds Helynne Wenz, HHNP Ad Hoc
Bette
Philo, Abutter (
Members Excused:
Ron Simard, Watanic Bowmen’s Club
Chris Christensen, HHNP Ad Hoc
Andy Powell, HHNP Ad Hoc, Conservation
Others Present:
Tom Kokx, Thomas Kokx Associates
Kerrie Diers, NRPC Assistant Director
Steve Schaffer, NRPC GIS Manager
Karen Baker, NRPC Administrative Assistant
Roland
Roberge, Abutter (
Pam
Skouira, Abutter (
Phil Wetzel, Sno-buds
Meeting Opened
The meeting was called to order by Tim Tenhave at 7:04 PM.
Announcements:
Tim Tenhave
announced that there was a sign put up on
Andy Powell wanted the group to know that there is a Farm
and Forest Expo on February 3rd and 4th at the
Public Comment on
Agenda
Nancy Josephson, a
Tim Tenhave provided a brief overview of the process that
the Consensus Building Group (through the meeting process of HHNP Committee) is
going through to determine what will be done to the parcel. He also explained to
Introductions
Kerrie Diers introduced herself and explained what we do, why we are here and proceeded with an overview of the evening’s agenda. She explained that the group would vote on the objective criteria reviewed at the last meeting. Once this was done members would split up into small groups based on their interest, identify the access points, and outline a trail system used for their prospective activity. Once this is done, each interest group would then present their preferred priority plan. Kerrie expressed that everyone should be understanding of each groups use. In addition, while in the smaller groups, she asked that they talk about management options that were listed in the Master Plan. Kerrie concluded by asking if there were any questions on the overview. There were none.
Kerrie added that by developing the objective criteria, then applying it to the maps, the group would hopefully come up with an ultimate solution using this fair and objective process.
Tom Kokx was up next to go over the Objective Criteria discussed in the last meeting. Listed below are the changes brought forth by the group, additional changes or additions, and any comments, questions and concerns.
General Considerations: Most changes in this section were replacing “Avoid” with “Minimize”.
(Trail) Horseback: Robin felt that “Avoid Rocky Trails” was too broad and that you would not be able to ride anywhere in HHNP because most of the trails are rocky. General consensus was to delete it.
Conservation: Delete “(no driveable roads)” and replace with “no roads open to the public” (this was changed for safety and emergency vehicle accessibility).
ATV Trails: Delete “only (separate from other trail uses and built to Town standards)”.
Hunting: Delete “Provide ____ buffer”. Should read “State law requires 300 feet buffer from any permanently occupied residence”.
John
Herring questioned what weapons were allowed for hunting on the property at
HHNP. Bob L”Heureux responded all were,
except for high powered rifles.
Bob
L’Heureux commented that if there was a problem then they would come up with a
solution, but there has never been an incident on the property.
Due to the many
questions regarding increased buffers, applicable State Guidelines and Laws,
Deer hunting with shotgun (buck shot vs slug), and increased buffers, it was
agreed by all that an “ACTION ITEM BE TAKEN TO DETERMINE THE MAXIMUM LETHALITY
RANGES FOR ALL WEAPONS USED FOR HUNTING ON THE HHNP.”
A
member questioned impacts on the Town’s (offsite) infrastructure when it comes
to drainage and wetlands.
There
are some Class 6 roads open to the public.
Historic
Commission is working on a plan for
Bob
L’Heureux wanted to know if there was such a document available in regards to
building trails to Town standards. Debra
Huffman responded that there was, put out by the DPW.
Are
the ballparks set in stone was answered with “In the Master Plan approved by
the Board of Selectmen ballparks are listed as one of the uses.”
John
Herring commented about a force of law as being a standard, otherwise there
should be specification when referring to “Trail Standards”. The information provided by the town read as
“Town Guidelines”.
There
was a question regarding trapping on the site.
Mike Ruggiero mentioned that 3 permits had been put out by the town in
the past. Another member responded that
Trapping was by land owner approval only (coyote).
Roland
Roberge wanted to know why the ballpark could not go under the powerlines and
what the criteria was in determining the location of the fields. Tom Kokx explained the reason for doing the map
exercise was to determine, if you could put your fields/trails anywhere, where
would it be and then see if it meets all criteria.
No
decisions were being made at this time as to where everything will go, just
recommendations on best possible place to put each groups use for trails, etc.
Motion to accept Objective Criteria with changes came from Newton Coryell, Debra Huffman seconded the motion. 18 approved, 0 disapproved, 0 abstentions.
Kerrie spoke next asking members to split up into groups for about 35 to 40 minutes, based on their interests, and using markers, outline their desired access points, trails, and parking on the provided baseline maps. She asked them to use the following as a guide when doing the mapping exercise.
ACCESS POINTS
PARKING – PRIMARY/SECONDARY
PRIORITY LOCATIONS
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS
TRAILS – CURRENT/FUTURE
MANAGEMENT OPTION
Also available for reference were copies of the HHNP Master Plan and the
The mapping exercise concluded and each interest presented their preferred plan. Below is each interest group and key points, comments, concerns, and questions of their presentation.
MOUNTAIN BIKE (Harry
Watt & Tom Vaillancourt)
Outlined
biggest and widest trails/emergency trails
Outlined
core loops (trails with offshoots)
Outlined
where trails could be built for mountain biking/skiing
Suggested
field trips with group to see other trail systems (
Old
Linda
Reid had concerns with parking at
Harry
Watt suggested parking at
Outlined
multiple areas for core loops
Combining
several interests with trail system (bikers, hikers, skiers)
Core
trails for kids, others more advanced
No
real easy way to connect to other trails in town (self-contained)
HORSEBACK (Debra
Huffman)
Pink
Outline – Additional trails
Orange
Outline – Core trails (passive users)
Ideal
for Horses, Hikers, Cross-Country Skiers, Snowshoeing, and Mountain Bikes
By-passed
wet area (beavers overtaking)
Questioned
ability to cut across Watanic property (would eliminate trail on part under
powerline)
Purple
Outline – Viewing trail to scenic area
Helynne
Wenz spoke of NH Trail Specialist Bob Borrow who indicated that the trail by
Question
of ownership (Maloof) of class 6 road (Gauthier)
SNOWMOBILE (
Outlined
in yellow
Most
people coming in would be abutters
Access
at parking lot
Outlined
logging roads/big trails
Smaller
loops by riverside
Some
rough spots would need work
Mirrored
other trails (Hollis share uses of trails)
Keep
some swampy sections open for winter use when frozen
Responsible
trail users
Connie
Kreider questioned rider distance to Naticook Road/300 feet from residences is
the law
ATV (Roger Blais)
Outlined
in Blue
Same
outline as Snowmobile
Head
of NH Right Riders of Merrimack, Registered club with the State of
Full
approval from selectmen to develop former landfill (see “Special Session of the Board of Selectmen” handout)
showing club as responsible, organized, involved
Parking
in existing parking lot (felt most users would be riding in) therefore need for
less parking
Ability
to restrict hours at multiple access points
Debra
Huffman felt a lot of trails would be too wet for ATV use and requested he
identify a doable loop. She was also
concerned with wetlands from ATV use and the difficulty to get trails useable
for ATV standards. She requested Roger
come up with an affordable, maintainable loop.
ATHLETIC COMPLEX (MYA
– Janet Cormier, Mike Ruggiero)
Outlined
proposed ballfields (2 soccer/lacrosse (shared), 1 baseball)
Outlined
3 parking lots
Incompatible
to have ballfields under powerlines for safety issues
Incompatible
to have near Palmeri (private development) - drainage issue between a 3 and 5
acre parcel
Incompatible
to have in old forest area – impact 3 wildlife habitats
Generally
fences around ballfields (for protection of the beaver ponds)
John
Hall felt the beavers would have to be controlled
Parking
areas 3 times the size of what would be needed
Existing
road used as access point (some mitigation required)
Concerns
with late night game noise (No plans for lighting)
No
issue with horses staying on road so they could cross and access
Plan
was to mold proposed fields in with other uses
Road
most likely be crushed asphalt (engineers to advise)
Security
would be same as all other fields in town
Questions
on wildlife corridor at access point and woodcock nesting areas
OUTDOOR EDUCATION & HISTORIC (Connie Kreider, Ruth Roulx, Harold
Watson)
Historic Uses
Old
Trail
to go to historic building
Cellar
Hole from Spaulding
Sheep
Pen – for early farming exhibit
Educational Uses
Field
trips for school children (length 2 periods)
Use
existing parking lot
Kiosks
explaining areas in preserve
Overnight
parking in Wasserman
Observation
decks near beaver dams
Stands
each to have a learning experience along with them based on surroundings
STAND
5 – Tree varieties, leave shapes, crowning of leaves, bark
STAND
6 – Hardwood oaks & their different uses of woods (Kids think wood comes
from Home Depot)
STAND
7 – Wildlife corridor, turtles, beaver tracking
STAND
8 – Old growth, wildflowers, close to ground shrubs
SANDPIT
– Contemplation of learning experience area
Proposal
of a covered space (not building) to gather resources
Whole
of property as an educational experience
Tim asked Ruth & Connie to explain the Historic
Commissions idea for
ARCHERY (John Hall)
Watanic
Bowmen’s Club used to own to the powerline
Developments
around used to be wooded
Old
Club
sponsors shoots a couple times a year with permission from Town for 30 or 40
foot shoots
Signs
are posted for safety
Outlined
in
Have
given permission for access to public for special occasions (hikes, etc.)
Incorporated
in the early 50’s with membership anywhere between 14 and 60.
Beaver
dams on Watanic property (no beavers currently)
Possibility
to form youth archery group
Kerrie concluded the meeting by explaining that all items were covered except for Hunting due to the Action Items. It was decided by Debra Huffman that Feedback on Management options would not be brief and was therefore rescheduled for discussion at the next meeting. Kerrie informed the group that we would continue with more mapping exercises (corridors, wetlands, etc.) next meeting as well. There were no further comments.
NOTE: During the meeting there were a few questions regarding financial concerns with the ballfields, blasting of ledge on the water, and hunting. Tim informed members that this would be discussed at a later meeting. This evening was about “Pie in the Sky”.
Motion to adjourn came from Connie Kreider, seconded by Debra Huffman. Meeting Adjourned at 10:03 pm.
Next meeting is scheduled for Monday, February 6th at 7:00 pm in the Merrimack Town Hall Courtroom.
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